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Re: 23rd June EU Referendum

Postby Quietman » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:45 am

Sly Boots wrote:
DjchunKfunK wrote:I mean it was less hand of friendship and more do what I want or else. May along with Hammond speaking at the weekend have strongly hinted that if we don't get a good deal we will become some sort of offshore low tax haven.


What did Clarkson make of it all?


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Re: 23rd June EU Referendum

Postby DjchunKfunK » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:03 pm

:D
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Re: 23rd June EU Referendum

Postby Sly Boots » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:12 pm

The comedic possibilities are near-endless.

It's also quite amusing for us currently as the PM's surname is the same as our eldest's first name. So lots of headlines in the papers like "May's school revolution". I was thinking of making a scrapbook of them for when she's older :lol:
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Re: 23rd June EU Referendum

Postby Quietman » Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:46 am

Something she can keep in the war torn shell of a home that you once shared as reminder of how it all began?
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Re: 23rd June EU Referendum

Postby Mantis » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:04 pm

The Article 50 Bill is being voted on right now. The 'debates' have been pretty disheartening to watch to say the least.

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Re: 23rd June EU Referendum

Postby Sly Boots » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:15 pm

Quietman wrote:Something she can keep in the war torn shell of a home that you once shared as reminder of how it all began?


Only just seen this. And, :lol:, yes, pretty much.
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Re: 23rd June EU Referendum

Postby Subway Diet » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:53 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38833883
MPs have voted by a majority of 384 to allow Theresa May to get Brexit negotiations under way.


And the downward spiral begins.
Looking forward to the Tories running roughshod over the country indefinitely.

One MP was heard to shout "Suicide" when the result of the vote was announced.

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Re: 23rd June EU Referendum

Postby DjchunKfunK » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:00 pm

I mean it wasn't going to go any other way, whether you agree or not the country voted to leave the EU so Parliament can't really vote against that.
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Re: 23rd June EU Referendum

Postby Mantis » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:10 pm

Well, they could have, and there would have been a rationality to it too. But then the gutter press in this country would have strung them up. I imagine that if Corbyn had called a three line whip to block Article 50 in the interest of more transparent negotiations, or just plainly rejecting the referendum for the sham it was, then the Daily Mail and Express would likely have called for his immediate execution.

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Re: 23rd June EU Referendum

Postby Jez » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:57 pm

MPs voting this down whether you agree with the vote or not would have been incredibly damaging to the political structure in the country. Rationality or not the country voted to leave and well ... that's democracy. I won't disagree that both sides in the campaign that led to this were untruthful and loose with the facts because they were...but that might just teach them to respect the electorate a little more despite any result of Brexit.

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Re: 23rd June EU Referendum

Postby Animalmother » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:57 pm

DjchunKfunK wrote:I mean it wasn't going to go any other way, whether you agree or not the country voted to leave the EU so Parliament can't really vote against that.


Yeah that's what I was thinking. There's no going back on this is there?

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Re: 23rd June EU Referendum

Postby Mantis » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:04 pm

It won't make any MPs respect the electorate any more, it'll just make them pander to them out of self interest. The mood of this country is being set by a far right, foreigner hating press which all of our elected officials are too spineless to take any sort of stand against. It is not democracy, it is farce.

Ken Clarke's speech yesterday was very poignant. This referendum should never even have taken place. And no, there is no going back now.

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Re: 23rd June EU Referendum

Postby Jez » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:09 pm

Mantis wrote: It is not democracy, it is farce.

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A matter of opinion I suppose.

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Re: 23rd June EU Referendum

Postby Subway Diet » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:12 am

Jez wrote:
Mantis wrote: It is not democracy, it is farce.

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A matter of opinion I suppose.
Luckily, not all opinions are created equal
I'll be amazed if anyone can make an argument for the hate-mongering gutter press in the UK for being a good thing. Someone has to either be buying into the endless stream of shit, or doing mental gymnastics at an Olympian level.
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Re: 23rd June EU Referendum

Postby Mantis » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:18 am

People do buy into it and support the papers. Alongside the xenophobia and completely undisguised racism they constantly feed the superiority complex that so many white British males seem to have. Nobody stops to think that perhaps they shouldn't trust anything these articles have to say because it's easier to get caught up in the furore and blame everything on Johnny foreigner.

I legitimately heard someone commenting not long ago that we should remove Muslims from positions of power because there are too many of them and they aren't 'true British'. In this instance they were talking about Sadiq Khan.

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