The Leaders Debate & the General Election in General

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Re: The Leaders Debate & the General Election in General

Postby STuG » Fri May 08, 2015 12:18 pm

Surprisingly for such a lacklustre campaign it has produced a quite remarkable result.

Party leaders falling on swords in quick succession, the country at large (Scotland obviously being the exception) rejecting the policies of the left and questions are still to answer on the 'FPTP' system and vote representation. Specifically an election which gives 56 seats to a party with 4.8% of the national vote, 8 seats to a party with 7.8% of the national vote yet only one seat to a party with 12.6% of the national vote.

The share of the vote in Wales is rather interesting too as 'UKIP' have polled third in the overall amount of votes cast. Unthinkable only a few years ago as Wales has generally been safe ground for Labour, UKIP had no presence prior to last night, and now even the Tories have increased their share of the vote and added seats here.

Voter turnout in Wales was 65.7% with Labour having 36.9% of all votes cast in Wales.

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Re: The Leaders Debate & the General Election in General

Postby Jez » Fri May 08, 2015 2:58 pm

Out of the leaders that went today I feel most for clegg. I think he was one of the few genuine politicians and I believed he truly wanted to try to the best for everyone in his quietly dignified way.

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Re: The Leaders Debate & the General Election in General

Postby Edwin » Fri May 08, 2015 8:05 pm

The Conservatives wanted to make boundary changes in the last government to reduce the total number of MPs, coincidentally a lot of those reduced MPs were in Labour constituencies. The Lib Dems stopped them last time.
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Re: The Leaders Debate & the General Election in General

Postby Edwin » Sat May 09, 2015 9:10 pm

The new government hasn't even done anything yet and the crusties are already protesting
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Re: The Leaders Debate & the General Election in General

Postby Quietman » Sun May 10, 2015 7:15 am

They appointed Gove as Justice Secretary. That's enough.

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Re: The Leaders Debate & the General Election in General

Postby Jez » Sun May 10, 2015 10:19 am

Yes he is an utter twit and now he gets to reform the prison service? Are they mad? Are they?

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Re: The Leaders Debate & the General Election in General

Postby Mantis » Sun May 10, 2015 10:33 am

He's also going to scrap the Human Rights Act and replace it with an English Bill of Rights. A very slippery slope considering that if the ECtHR shoots them down on any of their plans they've already made it clear that they'll withdraw from the European Convention.

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Theresa May being back in and immediately boasting she was going to shove her 'snoopers' Communication Bill through parliament is pretty grim news too considering that polls all reject the idea of it heavily.

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Re: The Leaders Debate & the General Election in General

Postby Edwin » Sun May 10, 2015 11:59 am

They still might not manage it, it would only take a small rebellion to take away their majority. It just requires Labour to turn up for the next five years.
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Re: The Leaders Debate & the General Election in General

Postby Mantis » Mon May 11, 2015 4:18 pm

Farage has unresigned himself. UKIP supporters are lapping it up but it really does show how much of a one trick pony the party is. This will end up damaging their reputation even further in the long run than if he'd just stayed gone.

Also, just been reading the SNP election manifesto and in the introductory paragraph it clearly states this:
The SNP will never put the Tories into power

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Re: The Leaders Debate & the General Election in General

Postby Jez » Mon May 11, 2015 4:40 pm

Didn't the UKIP council or whatever just not accept his resignation? There's a difference between that and unresigning himself though I'd agree that the end result probably isn't going to Help them.

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Re: The Leaders Debate & the General Election in General

Postby Mantis » Mon May 11, 2015 4:42 pm

The concept of not accepting a resignation is farcical. If he had any scruples at all he'd have stuck to his guns. Though I suspect the whole thing was just a planned PR stunt from the beginning.

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Re: The Leaders Debate & the General Election in General

Postby Quietman » Mon May 11, 2015 7:58 pm

He'd already said that despite resigning he would run again for leader when they voted, and he would doubtlessly have won then.

This is exactly what I meant earlier. Spineless, loud pricks who don't have the courage of their convictions and would stick two fingers up at the public rather than do a word they promised to.
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Re: The Leaders Debate & the General Election in General

Postby DjchunKfunK » Wed May 13, 2015 10:04 am

Any damage they have done to their reputation by not letting him resign will be miniscule compared to what would have happened if they had let him go. If he had gone and they had elected someone else then I could see them slipping into irrelevance. With Farge as leader he keeps the party in the media's eye and eventually people will forget how he resigned and then became leader again. Tactically this is the best thing UKIP could have done. Also the worst thing they could have done from my perspective. I was looking forward to them fading back into the shadows.
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Re: The Leaders Debate & the General Election in General

Postby Quietman » Wed May 13, 2015 2:06 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 46517.html

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Re: The Leaders Debate & the General Election in General

Postby Medicine Man » Wed May 13, 2015 2:59 pm

I'm not sure I'm hiding anything. Except that terrorist cell I'm organizing in my basement.

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