[Question]Thinking about getting a new PC.

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[Question]Thinking about getting a new PC.

Postby Mint » Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:48 am

I am budgeting to buy a new PC. I would build one myself but I wouldn't be happy knowing that I might cock it up with areas that confuse me, such as cooling systems, good motherboards and processors that attach to them etc,

So I want a good, reliable, website that doesn't overcharge lazy people like me.

I will mainly be using it for gaming, and artistic reasons and I am willing to drop a max of £1400 at it early next year.

This does not include a monitor or any other peripherals as I will buy them separately as I am budgeting a top of £2000 for the complete thing.

It is my kinda of late Christmas present and welcome to a new year, well done new job, kind of thing.

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Re: [Question]Thinking about getting a new PC.

Postby Sly Boots » Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:59 am

PC Specialist highly recommended, they built my current PC and it's great, and wasn't that much more than the cost of the individual components themselves. After-sales support was also very good.
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Re: [Question]Thinking about getting a new PC.

Postby Mint » Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:07 am

Just a quicky, how do you know you that the after sales support is good? Something go wrong?

My main concern is that with these online companies, you get the sodding thing and a couple of months later, for no logical reason, it packs up and you end up 'head to tailing' the website about sending it back under warranty. That's why I want something reliable.

I just want it to work really. I used PCspecialist for an old PC and my experience was very different to yours. But times may have changed them. Then I bought one from eBay and it was brilliant.

Swings and roundabouts maybe.

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Re: [Question]Thinking about getting a new PC.

Postby Jez » Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:16 am

I used them a few years ago too found them good.

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Re: [Question]Thinking about getting a new PC.

Postby Tichinde » Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:39 am

To counter that, a friend had a hideous experience with them when he purchased a laptop from them.
The product, and their support when it failed to deliver were disgraceful.

If you're happy doing a self-build but are just worried over part choice, then ask away. We're fairly good at this in the tech forum :)
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Re: [Question]Thinking about getting a new PC.

Postby Eny » Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:58 am

Build your own and be done with it. All your fears are unfounded and will evaporate if you stop thinking about it and actually do it, believe me. The sense of satisfaction at building it yourself and the pleasant surprise at just how straightforward it is, make it a positive experience.
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Re: [Question]Thinking about getting a new PC.

Postby Sly Boots » Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:01 am

Mint wrote:Just a quicky, how do you know you that the after sales support is good? Something go wrong?

My main concern is that with these online companies, you get the sodding thing and a couple of months later, for no logical reason, it packs up and you end up 'head to tailing' the website about sending it back under warranty. That's why I want something reliable.

I just want it to work really. I used PCspecialist for an old PC and my experience was very different to yours. But times may have changed them. Then I bought one from eBay and it was brilliant.

Swings and roundabouts maybe.


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Re: [Question]Thinking about getting a new PC.

Postby Me » Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:12 am

Tichinde wrote:If you're happy doing a self-build but are just worried over part choice, then ask away. We're fairly good at this in the tech forum :)

Yarg, it's simpler now than ever really. Just get an Intel core i5 K2600, a Z77 mobo some RAM and a GFX card as good as you can afford.

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Re: [Question]Thinking about getting a new PC.

Postby Tichinde » Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:33 am

Me wrote:
Tichinde wrote:If you're happy doing a self-build but are just worried over part choice, then ask away. We're fairly good at this in the tech forum :)

Yarg, it's simpler now than ever really. Just get an Intel core i5 K2600, a Z77 mobo some RAM and a GFX card as good as you can afford.


With a £1400 budget aimed at early next year....nahh :)
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Re: [Question]Thinking about getting a new PC.

Postby Mint » Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:27 pm

So, with that kind of cash drop down, what kind of system am I looking at? If I was going to build this, going to have to use you guys quite a bit me thinks.

Might need a bit of a breakdown on what I need.

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Re: [Question]Thinking about getting a new PC.

Postby Eny » Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:38 pm

Open your case, put a post 750watt PSU in it, install a z77 motherboard (personally I suggest an Asus), put on your processor - Intel i5 for bang-for-buckness - and attach the heat sink. Add your memory, click in your hard drives and mobo cables etc. Install your GFX and do a test run. Job done for well less than £1400. Get a Crucial M4 256gb, or a Samsung 830 256GB, SSD as your Windows/recent games drive too.
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Re: [Question]Thinking about getting a new PC.

Postby Mint » Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:58 pm

And if I want to spend to the £1400 mark?

In my head, I have already spent that on the PC, maybe £1200. I just want something with a good kick that will last more than 1.5 years.

Is the i5 the best to go for at the moment? Is the i7 overpriced or overrated?

What kind of grfx cards are wise to use for now? Nvidia on top? Which to go for? 256? 1gb?

RAM - 8gb DDR3 enough today?

750WATT enough too?

Just fans to cool it? No need for alternative/extra cooling? Everyone bangs on about it.

I have seen the load up times of SSD drives and they are becoming very affordable, so I think I am going to stick with that, but 1TB? Less? I have my old HDD still, so might use that too.


Too many questions.

I decided to look what PCSpecialist had for me, this is one quote;

The specification below has been formatted so you can easily copy and paste this to our forums when discussing your specification. Once you've copied the specification, please click here to continue.


Case
COOLERMASTER CM STORM ENFORCER - GAMING ENTHUSIAST CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-3770 (3.4GHz) 8MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® P8Z77-V LX: USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs, ATI®CrossFireX
Memory (RAM)
8GB KINGSTON HYPERX GENESIS DUAL-DDR3 1866MHz X.M.P(2 x 4GB KIT)
Graphics Card
3GB AMD RADEON™ HD7950 - DVI,HDMI,2 mDP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 4 Capable
Free Item
FREE SLEEPING DOGS GAME with AMD HD 7850 GPU & ABOVE!
Memory - 1st Hard Disk
120GB INTEL® 520 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
2nd Hard Disk
1TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 32MB CACHE
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
12x BLU-RAY ROM DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W ENTHUSIAST SERIES™ TX850 V2-80 PLUS® BRONZE (£99)
Processor Cooling
COOLIT ECO II A.L.C ADVANCED LIQUID COOLER (£49)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Facilities
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs
USB Options
6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD
Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence
Office Software
FREE Microsoft® Office Starter 2010 (Limited functionality Word & Excel)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£5)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 11 working days
Quantity
1

Price: £1,195.00 including VAT and delivery.

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Re: [Question]Thinking about getting a new PC.

Postby Me » Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:51 pm

Yar, i7 won't really help gaming much beyond an i5, but it costs shit loads more. 750w is overkill massively unless you're SLi'ing. Which GFX card you want depends on your price point, a 7950 is good for about £230 mark for example. If you're going to spend a grand (I wouldn't, you don't really need too these days) make sure you get an SSD as it'll make windows fast as fuck and it won't slow down over time.

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Re: [Question]Thinking about getting a new PC.

Postby Jez » Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:55 pm

Thats clearly going to be as good as more or less anything out there at the moment. Id have said thats a good price really and if your not assed about building yourself and saving a good whack then go for that.

the i5 would be cheaper if theres an option to cut that down and really it gives the same performance gaming wise im to understand.

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Re: [Question]Thinking about getting a new PC.

Postby JohnyHumf » Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:44 pm

Any more than a grand and you'll get a beast of a machine no bother. Bought mine from Cyberpower about four years ago, been going great since.

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