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Re: Microtransactions

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:53 pm
by Tank
I am assuming your referring to Battlefront 2 because whilst CoD WW2 wasn't earth shattering it wasn't bad as such.

Not Battlefront 2 bad anyway.

Re: Microtransactions

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:03 pm
by Mantis
Battlefront 2 physical sales in the UK were way down too, but then physical sales really don't mean anywhere near as much as they did even a couple of years ago.

EA are still down nearly 10% from the peak they'd reached at the beginning of November prior to the Battlefront controversy. That has to be a huge blow for them; the release of such a hyped franchise right before the next movie comes out should have given them a massive bump in share value. In the grand scheme of things it's not a big deal as they're still riding all time highs compared with a few years ago, but you've got to think there's some key shareholders and board members somewhere in the US whose blood is boiling at this cock up.

Of course, it won't stop them from continuing down the 'MTX' service path.

Re: Microtransactions

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:21 pm
by Mantis
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:lol:

Re: Microtransactions

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:21 pm
by Tank
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Re: Microtransactions

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:56 pm
by Raid
It's worth pointing out that's a screenshot from their free-to-play mobile game, so it's not quite as offensive as it could be.

Re: Microtransactions

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:06 am
by Achtung Englander
Computer Games 1977 - 2018

Jim Sterling reveals an absolute blinder from Ubisoft. The days of a just buying a full game with a single player narrative are over for them.

Get back into retro gaming boys !


Re: Microtransactions

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:26 am
by Sly Boots
It's nirvana for the big publishers, but I don't think it's anything new as it's clear some (particularly EA) have been heading that way for a while.

Meanwhile others are even making it a bit of a USP that they fundamentally disagree with that approach and indy/non-triple-A games are probably stronger now than they've ever been.

I don't think gaming is going anywhere as a past-time, but there will probably be an ever-increasing chasm between what the triple-A mainstream is offering and my own interests/preferences.

Re: Microtransactions

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:01 pm
by DjchunKfunK
Jim Sterling is such a pompous arse and while I'm sure there is the odd point in that rant it just comes across so badly and it's all about him rather than making any real proper points. What's with the stupid voices and the condescending tone? Oh and some of it is just very much this.

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Oh also, if you are going to do a video like this you need to get your facts right. Destiny was never meant to be one game lasting 10 years, it was meant to be a 10 year series.

Re: Microtransactions

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:18 pm
by Snowy
So here's the thing, I am not strapped for video games to play that I really enjoy. I hate the whole P2W, drip-feed cash, "buying the game doesn't actually buy you the game" concept that is running rampant across a lot of triple-A publishers, but that's fine, I just don't buy their titles.

Ubisoft is an exception, but that is just because I tend to really enjoy their offerings, so no issue for me there. Also I buy it once, anything that asks me to dip back into my wallet gets a firm "Get fucked". Ubi have also started down an interesting path with their DLC, in that they are making standalone episodes apart from the game - they did with GR: Wildlands and then again with Asscreed Origins. This works fine for me, means I get the whole game when I buy it, and can sack off the DLC as garbage that I neither want nor need (confession, I bought the season pass for Wildlands. Partial utter shit, partially good). Looking at the gold edition of Origins, I saw they were way off the mark of what I would find enjoyable so not buying it was a complete no-brainer. Same looks to be true of FC5 - if I decide to buy it, it will be vanilla all the way.

Anyhow I digress. Between the titles I already own and other current and forthcoming titles, there will be plenty to titillate me. Fuck the big boys, if they want to make something I have no desire to play, I won't buy their stuff. For me it is similar to music - I have no clue what is popular at the moment, nor what sells, I just know the type of thing that I like so I buy that.

I am not found wanting for games.

Re: Microtransactions

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:47 pm
by Achtung Englander
all good points. The fascinating thing is that the publishers follow the money and the consumers dictate how they want to spend their money. People like DLC and MTX - so...er...that is where the publishers will go

Apparently on Jan'18 Take Two made the most money from GTA V Online ever - so go figure

Personally I have enough gaming from my list of shame to keep me engaged for at least 5 years, let alone any new stuff that come out now that I would like to play

So many "AAA" get made which is not for me and that is fine. As you said most succinctly Snowy - I know what I like and I have enough on my plate

Re: Microtransactions

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:16 pm
by Mantis
I think it'll come full circle eventually. Publishers are pushing more and more towards games as a service where they want you to play just one game for several years whilst constantly buying new ingame items with microtransactions. Not only is that isolating the market of people who hate that particular system, it's also going to lead to games being so bloated and expensive that players will have little choice but to dedicate their entire spare time to playing just to keep up with the barrage of items. It already has happened in a manner with things like Hearthstone, where in order to catch up with the current meta and expansion packs you have to drop a large amount of money. None of my Hearthstone decks are currently usable in the regular ranked mode because I packed in the time and money grind a long time ago.

Hopefully, eventually people will become savvy to the whole concept and realise that they've spent an enormous amount of money on a game that they feel like they have to keep playing simply because of the time and resources invested, all while missing out on so many other titles. Sinking that much into a single game usually pushes you into continuing playing even when you don't really enjoy it that much anymore.

It's going to get worse before it gets better though, and I'm really not looking forward to the time where these transactions start becoming so much more prevalent in single player games, particularly if they take the form of paid random loot boxes.

As Sly said though, thank the gods for indie games. Smaller studios have been putting out by far the best and most interesting titles for quite a while now. We're spoilt for choice with them.

Re: Microtransactions

PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:03 pm
by Asherons
Snowy wrote: Also I buy it once, anything that asks me to dip back into my wallet gets a firm "Get fucked".

That's basically my philosophy as well. I have paid full price for a few games and then refuse to let that game double dip back into my wallet for an expansion or add on content.

Re: Microtransactions

PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:14 pm
by Jez
I don't tend to buy things in game unless I particularly want to support the developer a little more. One example of this is with Elite Dangerous. Massive amount of hours in that and I don't begrudge spending a few quid on a few cosmetics for my ships.

I also usually buy the pre release extended editions of games I know I'll enjoy. Examples like Witcher 3, Battlefield series. I happen to think gaming is extremely good value for money with many titles. For instance I have 600 plus hours in BF1 so they've more than earned my money several times over.

This can be a contentious issue but for me it's selective about what I'll pay "extra" for over and above the initial price. Anything with a pay to win lootbox sniff will not get bought or in the case of recent star wars ...refunded (though mainly because I felt the game was fuckin shite)

Re: Microtransactions

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:07 pm
by Medicine Man
Great website for checking whether or not a game has the dreaded Micheal Transjacksons in them, and to what extent...

https://microtransaction.zone/

Probably an essential tool in today's game buying climate.

Re: Microtransactions

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:22 pm
by Achtung Englander
it has come to this !