Blade Runner 2049

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Re: Blade Runner 2049

Postby Subway Diet » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:20 pm

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Subway Diet wrote: Just that the onset of motion sickness and a panic attack that distracted me. :(

Is it the depth of detail that caused the motion sickness? Or just being in the cinema itself?

I've read of there being an increase in cases of vertigo with modern cinema goers, due to digital films cramming in endless detail at varying distances (that and 3D obviously). For some people, the eye just can't find a focal point or something.
Won't deny that I'm prone to that kind of thing. Like, games with small FOV or floaty camera movement do my head in.

But yeah, it was a smaller screen, though I ended up sitting a little too close and off to the side. Not sure what exactly did it, I'd wager it was seeing the flying shots at a weird, too-close angle that set things off. Could feel my equilibrium going every time there was a long pan over the cityscape.
This being a Blade Runner film, there was quite a few of those!

Funny. I survived the boats and air combat of Dunkirk just fine. 8-[

(For the record, I started feeling massively shitty. Don't want anyone thinking that I ran off just because of a mild little headache.)

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Re: Blade Runner 2049

Postby Mantis » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:52 pm

£17.50 for a 3D IMAX ticket at our local cinema now! I'm sure that's about £4 more expensive than when I went to see Rogue One at Christmas.

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Re: Blade Runner 2049

Postby Quietman » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:45 pm

Booked tickets for myself and four friends for the midnight showing at our local IMAX. Can't wait :D
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Re: Blade Runner 2049

Postby Achtung Englander » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:47 am

listening to the OST on Spotify the music is just a too much like the OST of Arrival. Even though they are differing composers, the 80s electronic vibe of Vangelis is replaced by a modern soundtrack, which does sound magical and has hints of Vangelis, but imo not one I would revisit often as I would the score of Blade Runner.
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Re: Blade Runner 2049

Postby Mantis » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:52 pm

That was a very different movie to the original. Overall I'd say it stands alone fairly well and has a pretty different vibe. The claustrophobic gritty noir isn't really there in the same way, though it is visually absolutely stunning and really has a lot of atmosphere. Overall though the version of the future presented here did feel more Ghost in the Shell than Blade Runner.

I think it was a much more straight forward movie too, less of a subtext running through like the original had, which is kind of to be expected when you consider how this sequel was sort of tacked on so many years later. Not that the plot and writing isn't all well handled, I should point out.

Overall agree with Achtung's review. Jared Leto and his assistant didn't really feel very well fleshed out at all. But the plot is still very strong, if totally unambiguous. And the Gaff cameo was very much appreciated.

I also quite liked the soundtrack. Pretty much the only reason I went to see it in 3D IMAX was to hear it over their sound system. It's no Vangelis but it was still very good, the booming synth bass lent itself well to the visuals. It had a much more modern edge to it though, certainly no jazz like in the original.

So yes, definitely a great movie, really quite a fantastic experience. It's biggest failing I think is that it doesn't really have the same feeling the original had, but that doesn't necessarily impact on the quality of the movie on its own merit.

Very glad I went to see it on the big screen. That was my first cinema trip this year.

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Re: Blade Runner 2049

Postby Mantis » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:00 pm

It's been nearly a week and I keep thinking about this movie. I think I may have to go see it again.

Has everyone else been yet? Curious that a fair few were talking of it but nobody really came back to give any thoughts on it.

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Re: Blade Runner 2049

Postby Sly Boots » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:03 pm

I'd definitely like to see it, it's just rare that I get to go to the cinema these days.
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Re: Blade Runner 2049

Postby Mantis » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:13 pm

I would say that it's definitely one of those movies that is heavily enhanced by seeing it on the large screen, definitely worth trying to squeeze a viewing in.

I read a review somewhere that said it is essentially just a $200m art house movie, which I think sums it up pretty nicely. It burns so slowly for nearly three hours, you just sort of get lost in the beautiful cinematography and atmosphere. There are protracted scenes with no dialogue at all but there's so much else going on to engross you that you'd hardly clock it.

I really like this movie. -_-

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Re: Blade Runner 2049

Postby Animalmother » Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:57 am

Went to see it last week, wasn't that enthused by it to be honest. Not a bad film just over long and some scenes just dragged.

It would probably improve with a re-watch some time in the future.

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Re: Blade Runner 2049

Postby Achtung Englander » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:54 am

Christ I fucking hope not
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Re: Blade Runner 2049

Postby DjchunKfunK » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:29 pm

Watched this last night and I really enjoyed it. Visually it is stunning and together with the soundtrack creates a great atmosphere. I think the only real weak link was the story which was a bit formulaic.

I don't think it matters that it creates a different feel to the original, as they talk about, the blackout has changed the world so I think it is fair for the world to have changed inbetween the two films and become less gritty noir. I think the world is in a more upbeat state than in the previous film what with the colonies and how that creates a feeling of progress and a future for mankind so I think the change fits.
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Re: Blade Runner 2049

Postby Jez » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:57 pm

Haven't seen it myself mainly with being away from home but also because it's easily been 20 years since seeing the original and I'd like to watch that first.

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Re: Blade Runner 2049

Postby Subway Diet » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:28 am

Finally saw it.

First off, and this isn't related directly to the film.
I feel like my ability to think and discuss films critically has declined over time. I think it's a side effect of watching films alone. Was horrified to catch myself more or less just... watching. Not thinking about the film in any way other then the surface level effect it was having on me. It worries me that I've fallen out of that constantly thinking and considering "Movie Buff" thought pastern.

And, with all that out of the way, I'm probably going to have to watch the film again a few times to have it really sink in. This first time through is pretty much the "Oh wow!" viewing. Now's the part where I listen to a bunch of spoiler podcasts to hear people thoughts before going back in, with a better prepared mindset. :-k
I certainly took to it quicker than the original film, which took about 3 viewing in the space of a few months last year to really hit me just how amazing the film is.

But, uh, yeah. If anyone still cares to talk about Blade Runner 2049... I'll be here to try and have a conversation. 8-[
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Re: Blade Runner 2049

Postby Achtung Englander » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:29 am

I think the problem we have today is that CGI is now so commonplace that there is little "wow" factor. So plot and character is everything. Comparing 2049 to BR1 it feels wanting. The vibe from BR1 is kind of missing, like the crowds and the music. 2049 music was pretty much bland.

still given the plethora of really bad sequels / prequels, anything appearing remotely good is deemed brilliant now.

Need to re-watch it to get a better idea. To its credit it is re-watchable unlike the new Star Wars movies which really do not call to me for a re-watch.
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Re: Blade Runner 2049

Postby Mantis » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:10 pm

I think it's one of the best sci fi movies of the last twenty years. An absolute piece of art.

It's biggest shortcoming seems to be that it isn't the original. It has a distinctly different, more bleak, vibe. I think the soundtrack is perfect for it, in fact I think it's on the same level composition wise as Vangelis' efforts. The jazzy noir vibe would not have been appropriate for 2049. It's also comparatively tame on the CGI front when you think of the current trend with most big movies.

It's just such a visual feast too, I haven't watched something at the cinema that has completely engrossed me like that for a very long time. The sea wall scene gave me goosebumps in the cinema when combining the visuals with the blasting soundtrack. My Blu-ray arrived yesterday and I'm looking forward to seeing it again on my home setup.

Such a shame that it didn't do very well at the box office, but then neither did the original. I have a lot of respect for Denis Villeneuve for being so uncompromising in the vision of the world that he delivered.

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