Wrathbone wrote:The Force Awakens is a great film, and I totally reject the criticism from many people that it's a re-hash of A New Hope. If you watch it again (and you should), focus on what's different, not what's the same.
Mantis wrote:I never really bought into the whole arc about people thinking Luke Skywalker or the Force might not even have been real. It was what, twenty or so years ago in the storyline? That's not really long enough for something to fall into myth. Why all of a sudden people aren't even sure whether he existed is puzzling, especially considering that Leia is still the leader of the rebellion at this point and there's no reason she'd not tell everyone that the stories are true.
It's even more far fetched that people don't believe in the Force when you consider that the Jedi were a religious order that held a pretty important role in the Galaxy for the better part of a few thousand years.
Mantis wrote:I'd counter both of those points that world history events aren't really on the same level as an evil Galactic Empire being overthrown by a small band of rebels led by a Jedi. It's not the sort of thing you'd think people would be ignorant about just because it happened a decade before they were born. And likewise, in the days of the Republic the Jedi were the main diplomats who were deployed whenever different alien species couldn't play nice together. We may only be vaguely aware of the existence of Shaolin monks, but then they don't act as the United Nations primary peacekeeping force. Though maybe that's where we've been going wrong all these years.
We're just speculating on stuff that wasn't really properly explained in the movies though.
eVoL wrote:that Rey moment at the end where she wins like every marvel hero ever by just hitting it a bit harder was bullshit too and had no value as a character development especially since she didn't accomplish anything due to (again bullshit) lava pish.
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