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Re: Films I've just watched 2017

Postby Subway Diet » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:03 pm

Just back from Ghost in the Shell.

Hmm.
Well, certainly it looked nice?
I don't think it's left much of an impression. It's... decent.

Edit: Oh! Oh! I'm sure some smart critic has already said this, but I'm going to try it out anyway: "A shell without a ghost"
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Postby Animalmother » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:42 pm

Heard it was a bit pish alright, but nice looking.

Speaking of pish, about to go see Kong Skull Island.

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Re: Films I've just watched 2017

Postby Animalmother » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:16 pm

Kong: Skull Island

Well I enjoyed that, utter nonsense but fun. A mixture of the 70's Kong and Peter Jackson's effort. The music is great, all 60's and 70's rock. Not a great film but not at all bad, worth a look though.

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Postby Subway Diet » Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:59 pm

Re-watched Doctor Strange, this time in 3D.

Man. Man! I don't know about you guys, but this film got much better the second time around. Perhaps because I wasn't so focused on taking in all the exposition and instead just enjoyed the acting and, wow, those visuals!

It's just some really, really good actors having a laugh with a super hero film while kicking off some super imaginative action scenes. Inception on acid, portals, spectral tussling, fighting within a disaster as time plays in reverse. It's stuff that I've either not seen before, or concepts taken way beyond anything I could have imagined. The very reason I watch these huge spectacle movies: To see something unimaginable and new.

Phew! For me, this is a good bar for Summer Super Hero action movies to try and meet. Ball is in your court, Guardians of the Galaxy 2. :)

Edit: Oh! And I watched the original 1995 Ghost in the Shell the other night.
Still too jazzed on fancy visuals to give it a proper run down but, yes, it continues to blow the live action film out of the water.
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Re: Films I've just watched 2017

Postby eVoL » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:52 pm

Beauty and the Beast

Not half as bad as people have led me to believe. It's not fantastic but as live action Disney fantasy goes it fits right into that blandish mould. People do the fucking stupidest things in it though. So so stupid.
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Postby eVoL » Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:26 pm

Ghost In The Shell

I liked it, it was faithful yet its own thing, looked mostly great and it didn't drag. The anime is way way overblown with how amazing people think it is and that is probably a product of it's time and the age people were when they seen it. This is easily on par with that anime.


The Mermaid

Amazing! Just amazing.
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Postby Achtung Englander » Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:50 am

A whole bunch of films I have seen of late. Two - three line reviews:

Ghost In The Shell (1997)
I enjoyed this except for the over-complicated story. Why is section 9 so angry ?. The action is superb mind. Look forward to seeing the live version.
7/10 very good

Hunt For The Wilderpeople
Fun but not as funny as I expected it to be. Some great jokes but I had more fun with What We Do In The Shadows
7/10 very good

Transcendence
Stopped by the last 20 minutes. Great premise but ruined by a terrible plot.
3/10 disappointing

The Angels' Share
A huge surprise and really enjoyed it. Being a Ken Loach joint I was fearing the worst with a depressing ending, but this honestly made my day. Definitely a keeper.
8/10 excellent

Fantastic Beasts And Where To Find Them
One of the better Potter (universe) films except for the over top ending. Enjoyed the first 4/5.
7/10 very good

The Last Picture Show (1971)
Didn't get why this film is so highly rated. Maybe watching teenagers lose their minds from boredom because they are stuck in middle of nowhere town is saying something but I had better things to do with my time.
3/10 disappointing

Hell Or High Water
A very good crime drama with some solid acting and a great but simple story. A bit like True Detective The Movie
8/10 excellent

Bad Timing
Another masterclass in film making. I admire Nicolas Roeg movies a lot now. I find his films stick in my mind a long time after the credits roll. The editing is sublime even if the acting could have a tad better, but that offset by the editing which was everything. The way everyday objects and sayings remind you of past events and how chopped up your memory serves you is so true. Wonderful film.
9/10 Outstanding

Arrival
A cerebral film that does not reach the giddy heights of 2001 but I did like the fact the film made you think about the origin and the power of language and words (and how simple innocent misunderstanding could be very dangerous). Some great ideas there about space and time. A lot better than Interstellar but let down in parts with some presumptions about nation states which did not ring true for me.
8/10 very good

Triple 9
It was very good but not excellent. Had some good bits to it and it was nice to see some characters get killed off when you expect them to be around.
7/10 very good
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Postby Animalmother » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:24 am

The Nice Guys

Not a bad little comedy with Russell Crowe and Ryan Gosling, your typical Shane Black film really except actually good.

Two private detectives looking for a missing girl in the 70's LA porn scene. It's the sort of film that could easily have been made in the early 90's except with Mel Gibson and Val Kilmer and it would probably have been the exact same. Lots of scantly clad ladies and awesome 70's cars, with Keith David thrown in because he makes everything great.

7/10

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Postby Achtung Englander » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:27 pm

The Witch

Holy shit was that frightening. Great film with some fantastic acting and the music reminded me a lot of 2001 (Stargate scene) and it was used with superb effect. Lots of really shit your pants moment. The fucking goat just looked scary for being a goat !. So refreshing to see a film made without CGI and yet have the power to completely absorb and frighten you.

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When didn't Caleb just about turn and run away. I know he was lost but cmon there is a fucking witch in the wood !

Also - that crow scene. What the fuck !


Most freightening film I have seen since Blair Witch Project

8/10

Hidden Figures

The Help mark II

7/10
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Re: Films I've just watched 2017

Postby Achtung Englander » Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:37 am

Ghost In The Shell (2017)

Having seen the original anime last month I have to admit I really liked this. There are elements in the live action movie which were miles better than the animation. I would say about 40% of the animation has been faithfully reproduced in this film, but as said here, this film is its own thing.

The whole white washing thing about Johansson did not bother me because Major is an android, so really it does not matter what she is.

Personally I found the ending in the anime to be better than this film. The anime ending made more sense and the "happy" ending of this film jarred with the flavour of the proceeding 2 hours. Besides I like weird endings.

The anime was let down by an over complicated plot. This being a Hollywood film, the plot was easier to understand but that was let down by an over simplification of motives. The live action film is stunning to look at and I would recommend seeing it on the big screen.

It does put me at greater ease that Bladerunner 2 could look gorgeous if done right.

Overall I would give this film 7/10 as I awarded the anime. Definitely re-watchable.
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Postby eVoL » Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:11 pm

Going In Style
Good fun, some really chucklesome bits and just endearing mostly thanks to the cast. Chris Lloyd was wasted though, should have been a 4 man job.

Raw
Really liked that. Good atmosphere, great effects and well executed. The end isn't great but it's not awful. Cool little film.

Autopsy Of Jane Doe
That was good, maybe a little hackneyed at times but certainly better than your average horror by far.
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Postby Subway Diet » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:06 pm

Already mentioned that I really did not like the pacing or workman like direction of Ghost in the shell.
And every time it copied a shot from the original, it rang hollow, as if it was just recreating things without understanding the nuance of what the original was showing.

But, to talk about the whitewashing:

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I really wish they just took the casting of Scarlett Johansson and ran with it. None of the plot twist nonsense. Would have begrudgingly accepted if they excused the whole thing by saying Section 9 is now an international team, or something. They could have just left it well enough alone, but instead decided to make an even bigger balls up of it.

Considering the thoughtful, philosophical nature (however forced or pretentious it might be) from the two anime movies, I would have expected some hard cyberpunk style reflection on the idea of a brain of a Japanese girl is put in the body that has the appearance of an American super model and is brainwashed to be a soldier. There is a lot of room to really dig into concepts of identity and of race. Hell, it could have even analysed whitewashing by talking about why the scientists chose that body. Instead, what we got was "Don't be sad. Your daughter has been upgraded." It could be seen as playing into the notions I've heard coming out of Japan where they put the ideals of "white beauty" on a pedestal.

It was dumb and utterly tone deaf in it's execution. The film should have tried way harder to be smarter, instead of throwing it all under the bus for yet another silly, feel good message which flies in the face of not just the source material, but the genre in general.
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Re: Films I've just watched 2017

Postby Achtung Englander » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:16 pm

excellent point SD. The ending also jarred for me because the unnecessary happy conclusion. As I said I preferred the original anime ending as that made more sense given what happened in the conclusion of the previous set piece - it is like the producers kind of forgot what just happened.

As regards the white washing bit - to be honest, I am so jaded by almost everything now that I cannot muster the energy to complain because we now have to pick our battles. Poetic justice is that they casted Johannson to generate buzz and income and the film bombed anyway.
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Re: Films I've just watched 2017

Postby Prey » Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:03 pm

Rogue One then.

I hated TFA. For what everyone else saw as the movie that finally redeemed Star Wars from the prequels I saw as a massive disappointment with so much untapped potential from a director I normally thoroughly enjoy. What I got instead was a rehash of ANH that aside from Daisy Ridley's Rey character just didn't deliver for me whatsoever and only slightly improved on some of the prequels.

Rogue on the other hand did deliver - even on levels I never expected it could. This movies characters were truly great with the exception of two individuals but I will come to that later. It also has the biggest and best variety of Storm Troopers I do believe any Star Wars movie has given us to date. The same can also be said for the aliens in this film many of which are complete bad asses that fight side by side with Militia and makes a change from them simply being yet more background scenery. There's even a huge white er Yeti. Admiral Raddus had me shouting out IT'S A TRAP!! one time too often while Edrio “Two Tubes” is one character I would have loved to have learned more about and had more screen time.

Best of all. Not a single spaceship hangar scene that had 10,000 additional cast members constantly running backwards and forwards in all directions in order to build up a sense of immediate urgency. FUCK. THAT. SHIT. J.J.

What I loved mostly was just how well the movie seemed to perfectly splice the Star Wars of old that we know and love with a brand new take on it so that when brought together it all felt more than just a homage which I would say is where J.J. Abrams went wrong. With Star Wars films of old being so engrained within our mental psyche I even resorted to spotting bits of the set that was directly lifted design wise from the original trilogy - a specific door here or a gate there - the design of a certain set right down to the cosmetic design of a binoculars interior hud layout etc etc. It kept everything feeling familiar and yet somehow new at the same time. You perhaps have to be a die hard fan to even pick up on many of them but it just added to the films overall enjoyment.

K-2SO for me just stole the show though. I would even say he's pretty much Rogue One's very own Groot in many ways and Alan Tudyk was superb. Chirrut Îmwe as with many was a firm instant favourite. I mean I've always loved Donnie Yen anyway but the way he handled playing a blind believer of the force was just epic. Krennic, Malbus, Erso and Gerrera were all 100% excellent characters.

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The fact they all died upset me a tad. Some within mere minutes of the next ahd me going NOOOOO....NOOOOOOO!.


Now for the less positive -

Jyn Erso and Cassian Andor. Sorry but neither of these characters did anything for me. Cassian had the worst accent going and just seemed horribly miscast and Jyn I'm sorry to say was about as relatable and likeable as Emilia Clarke's take on Sarah Connor ie just no. For me these were without doubt the two worst characters to be at the forefront of the movie and I forever wished for their scenes to end quickly. Why they were is plain obvious but unlike say Rey and Finn in TFA they just failed to make me care about anything that was directly effecting them as characters. Something the others I mentioned above did almost instantly may I add.

I do think the movie was starting to run out of Steam during the second half but then THAT SCENE played out and I was on board again straight away. Holy fuck that was great and being someone who had avoided ALL SPOILERS I had no idea a certain someone would even appear and tie everything into the iconic opening from the original movie so neatly.

What made the movie so fresh though all came down to one single aspect - NO LIGHTSABERS. Far too often Star Wars movies are way too intent and obsessed with just counting down the minutes until the very first lightsaber appears on screen or the first lightsaber duel happens. Skipping this I felt truly elevated the movie because when it does finally happen it does so in THAT SCENE it is much more appreciated and just all round special.

So yeah it goes without saying that I loved Rogue One for the most part as it rights so many of the wrongs from TFA but sadly it is also rather significantly flawed because I just didn't care at all for the two main characters who certainly were no Luke and Leia or even just Finn and Rey which was a massive shame. Luckily the movies otherwise excellent cast saved the day.
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Re: Films I've just watched 2017

Postby Achtung Englander » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:04 pm

great review Dave

I agree about how it set the franchise back on track. For me it is the best SW film outside the original trilogy and may even be better on ROTJ (depending on how drunk/sober I am)
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