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Re: Films I've just watched 2018

Postby Subway Diet » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:34 pm

Wrathbone wrote:
Subway Diet wrote:The Last Jedi

I don't get what the fuss was about.

I mean, I get what the critical fuss was about. Those reviews are well deserved as I really enjoyed the film. Felt like a proper epic space opera. Jury is out on if it will supplant The Force Awakens for me, but I'll be watching it again soon, so we shall see!

No, the fuss I don't get is that of the massive backlash. I purposefully ignored the actual complaints, only knowing that there were many and numerous. Having seen it, I can't for the life of me see what it could have been.

And shame on the whole "Feminist propaganda" complaint. How fragile someone must be to have that as their take away from the film. :-k


I have some problems with it, but on the whole I agree with you. Some people really, really hate it, and the main reasons seem to be Superman Leia, Force Facetime, Snoke's sudden departure and the way Luke was handled. After a second viewing I like what was done with Luke. Superman Leia is cheesy but makes sense, so that's fine, and I have no problem with Force Facetime (it's not like new Force powers aren't regularly introduced in each film). I do have a problem with Snoke, as the films raise his background, his rise to power and his relationships with other characters as being of high significance, so unless he's going to make an appearance in episode 9 then they're not playing fair with the audience.

The main thing I have beef with is Rian Johnson's inability to hold back on cheap laughs during dramatic moments. It kills the tension for sake of a mild titter. Also there is a huuuuge problem with Finn, Rose and Benicio Del Not-Lando, because they have no place or purpose in the film. The whole casino section plays like it's in a different film, which is frustrating when the running time is overly long.

There is a cut of The Last Jedi which would be superb. Finn et al take a backseat or are cut entirely, Luke doesn't do his shoulder-brush gag and the whole thing comes in at a comfortable 2 hours. I live in hope that somebody will make that edited version.
I'm willing to accept that I''m on the wrong side of the narrative here, but I really liked the Finn and Rose side story.
The scenes at the casino is exactly the kind of campy adventure I like from this kind of space opera. Same goes for them getting onto the capital ship. And the film's whole message of learning from failure, seems like an amusing idea to have them go off on a convoluted quest, only to fail spectacularly at the last moment. Life lessons, along with getting a boot-in on war profiteering. :-k
I'll admit it does feel like the part of the film they had to cut down most to fit 2 hours. Luckily, the home versions have the extended cuts of those scenes, so they can be enjoyed on their own.

I'll also admit that humour didn't bother me. The two jokes that get called out, Poe doing a crank call and Luke brushing his shoulder, I think they work in the context. The first feels like a call back to Han trying to convince the control room nothing is wrong in the Death Star prison block, while also setting up his personally of being a cocky wise-ass. And the Luke bit, well, he's trying to project the coolest version of himself as a way to inspire/instill fear. So, it's not just he survived (because who watching the film actually thought that was going to be the end of him?) but he survived so much that he just nonchalant brushed it off.

Will take a Porg over Ewoks or Gungans any day!

People had a problem with "Force Facetime"? That's amazing. I thought those scenes were really interesting. Framing a direct conversation, but having the characters in completely different spaces? Gave a unique, weird feeling and I thought it was great. If people can accept
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a ghost puppet Yoda showing up
, I don't know why this is so hard to grasp.

Really enjoyed grumpy old Luke even if the characterization felt more like, well, Mark Hamill in a robe.
And Snoke? Who gives a crap? That dude was just an obstacle for Ren to take down. I'm sure there's an extended universe novel or comic people can read if they're that desperate for more Snoke.

I've since gone and watched the film again and it's pretty much cemented my thoughts that, so far under Disney, this is the best Star Wars has been in a long time (ago in a galaxy far, far away...).
Has yet to be seen if they can keep the streak up. All eyes on Solo.



(And I really enjoyed Valerian as well. 8-[ )
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Re: Films I've just watched 2018

Postby Wrathbone » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:50 pm

Subway Diet wrote:(And I really enjoyed Valerian as well. 8-[ )


I was willing to accept differences of opinion until this. :lol: That was the line.
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Re: Films I've just watched 2018

Postby Raid » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:36 pm

We watched TLJ it for the second time at the weekend. I'm glad to say I still enjoyed it, despite going into it knowing its flaws. It certainly isn't perfect - I still don't think much of the casino planet sequence, it just feels a bit forced, as if they couldn't think of anything better for Finn to do. While I'm still a little annoyed that we know bugger all about Snoke, I'll be perfectly happy if that backstory is explored in other media, it doesn't *need* to be in TLJ, I'm just curious! And besides that horribly clumsy dialogue as Kylo is ordered to kill Rey, that entire sequence was excellent. I still loved grumpy Luke, Hamill plays it beautifully. Every scene with him in was a joy to watch. I personally thought the "force facetime" (I hate that term) was a brilliant way of handling his confrontation - it seems an immensely powerful ability, but it helps to restore a bit of magic and mystery to the force after the prequels tried to ruin it.

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Re: Films I've just watched 2018

Postby Prey » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:38 am

Lost in Space is turning into Mass Effect the tv series far quicker than I ever expected it would. I kid you not.
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Re: Films I've just watched 2018

Postby Sly Boots » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:24 am

Prey wrote:Lost in Space is turning into Mass Effect the tv series far quicker than I ever expected it would. I kid you not.


Did you see the piece on the PCG site saying that very thing?

https://www.pcgamer.com/lost-in-space-mass-effect/
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Re: Films I've just watched 2018

Postby Achtung Englander » Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:54 pm

is it good. I mean there is SOO MUCH to see, prioritising is key. Is this worth my time ?
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Re: Films I've just watched 2018

Postby eVoL » Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:23 pm

A Quiet Place

Quite great! Sets itself apart from other horror movies with its originality. Not 100% new idea but the execution is superb. There’s one bit I though was dumb as fook for dramatic effect but the rest was superb. I’ve heard people say the end ruined it but I thought it was a perfect way to end it.





Also in the wake of seeing Isle Of Dogs I feel a desperate need to go back and see it again. Such a good movie!
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Re: Films I've just watched 2018

Postby eVoL » Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:39 pm

Rampage
Utter trash. Bad effects, bad story, stupid bag guy logic, has nothing to do with the game and the end is just beyond garbage.
....but it’s realllllllly reallllllly fun! I don’t think I would recommend spending cinema money to see it but if you get the chance to later on it really is a great dumb rollercoaster of stupid greatness. If you ever appreciated the good western Godzilla film (Broderick) then I’m fairly sure you’ll enjoy this too. Don’t expect much, just turn off your brain and strap in.
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Re: Films I've just watched 2018

Postby Animalmother » Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:46 pm

eVoL wrote:A Quiet Place

Quite great! Sets itself apart from other horror movies with its originality. Not 100% new idea but the execution is superb. There’s one bit I though was dumb as fook for dramatic effect but the rest was superb. I’ve heard people say the end ruined it but I thought it was a perfect way to end it.


Saw it last, pretty good alright. Not the sort of film you think too hard about or you'll be poking holes in it all day.

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Re: Films I've just watched 2018

Postby Wrathbone » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:25 pm

Avengers: Infinity War

That was exhausting.

I have no idea whether I enjoyed it or not. :lol: That’s going to take a day or two.

EDIT - For now let’s just say the parts of it that work do so very well, and the parts that don’t work are unfortunately due to the unprecedented bloat of characters. Even that isn’t an entirely fair assessment because the skimmed characters are mostly limited to one group (albeit a major one) and everyone else is handled with surprising clarity. The problem is that unlike every other MCU film, it has no heart. It grasps you and shakes you violently for 2.5 hours but I felt much less than I think I was meant to because... well, that’s spoiler territory, and I’ll leave that for later.
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Re: Films I've just watched 2018

Postby Prey » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:29 am

Kingsman 2

As expected director Matthew Vaughn proves once again that he is one of the most visually creative directors in the industry today within the first 15 minutes and it's all based around a fight that takes place in a black cab. Another scene that recreates the iconic bar scene also stood out as did quite a few others including many of the films fight scenes but that's all to be expected. Outside of this the film I felt just fell completely flat, gone was the charm of the original and Harry who was my favourite thing in the first just wasn't really Harry any longer although I understand that was very much the point it all just was somehow lost in translation.

Then we had Julianne Moore as Poppy. The sad fact is that I actually once had a major crush on Julianne Moore so it somewhat pains me to say that every single time she appeared on screen in this movie I wanted to throw something at the tv, yep fuck you Poppy. I fucking hated her with a passion. Just a terrible terrible written villain. Oh and about that much hyped up placing a bug scene was a massive letdown mainly due to the fact that the woman it the scene revolves around is a bloody stick insect with about as much sex appeal as an ingrown toe nail. Urgh she was horrid. The one true villain they could have actually made really interesting as a true look into how the entire Kingsman process can go very wrong and instead create an actual dynamic rivalry was explored but then ultimately wasted.

Finally we had Elton John and his chicken suit. I'm still undecided if this aspect worked for me or not. I think perhaps not. Elton John being Elton John just isn't all that funny.
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Re: Films I've just watched 2018

Postby Wrathbone » Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:50 am

Some more thoughts on Infinity War with FULL SPOILERS:

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Let this be a lesson to all franchises: character deaths have no impact if said characters have movies scheduled in the next couple of years. #-o I'm specifically referencing the death of Spiderman because obviously he's not perma-dead. Up until his death I kind of bought everyone else's death on the proviso that maybe the survivors will try and reverse it, but killing Spiderman when his own sequel is on the horizon may as well have been an on-screen message from Marvel saying "don't worry guys, at least some of these deaths will be reversed in Infinity War 2!". As such, and as intense as those final scenes were, I couldn't muster any sort of emotional response to the stream of deaths.

What did work was Thanos... mostly. Thanos was great as a performance piece, less so as coherent antagonist because he could have ended the film an hour earlier when he got the soul stone, which presumably is the stone that allows him to kill half the universe. The rest of the stones were more of a completionist's task than a narrative necessity. In terms of other characters, I liked every group's arc apart from Cap and Co.

Yeah, Captain America. That was a sorry state of affairs. They reduced him to "guy who punches", with a couple of weird pointy arm shields. And everyone around Cap was nothing more than firepower. The most heinous act of dismissal was Bruce and Nat's reunion, which amounted to "Hey Bruce / Hey Nat", while Hulk refused to surface for silly unclear reasons which should have been left entirely for the next film.

People are comparing this to The Empire Strikes Back, in that it's the darkest hour of the MCU, and it absolutely is. But Empire had heart - it provided hope at the end that Han would be rescued and that Luke would deal with Vader's revelation. Infinity War offers almost nothing, save for the post-credits scene which alludes to Captain Marvel coming to save the day. The tone of the end of Empire is "we're going to make this right", whereas the tone at the end of Infinity War is "Everyone's dead. Welp, shit." The ending offers trauma, not hope, and the MCU is built on hope. It's a strange move, and I'm not convinced it's a good one.
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Re: Films I've just watched 2018

Postby Subway Diet » Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:25 am

Some less in vogue films

Spider-Man 2
Always worry when going back to a film I have strong nostalgia for. Turns out it's still really, really good. And there are many people who can express why better than I can, so go read/watch them.
If anything, it's reminded me how good comic superhero films can be. Looking back, a lot of these Marvel movies look even more blah than before. Though it seems they're somewhat replicating the idea of handing the films over to more "nerd auteur" types now, which is far more interesting than some of the barely there seat warmers they've hired in the past.

Deadpool
Seemed like a fine time to give this another watch. Don't really have too much to say. It's still a laugh, but not one I shouldn't return to frequently. There's only so much mileage the joke can get, as enjoyable as the film is.


The Hitman's Bodyguard
Ryan Reynolds has that whole Nolan North casting thing going on. Every film I've seen him in, he's pretty much playing himself but with a twist. Same goes for Sam Jackson, actually.
So, it's a kind of Midnight Run from Manchester to The Hague with those two playing themselves, but fused with one of those half-assed attempts at "cool" comedy action films from the 00s. Remember awful guff like Smoking Aces or Shoot-em-up? Sort of like that, but with the painful "We stole this from Guy Richie!" aesthetic replaced with "We thought John Wick was cool!"
Didn't think it was terrible. Got a smile or two, but that's the extent of the emotional depth.
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Re: Films I've just watched 2018

Postby Achtung Englander » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:07 am

Detroit

Torture porn. Sometimes less is more.

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