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Shoya Tomizawa R.I.P

PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:20 pm
by Scrappy
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/motorbikes/8970385.stm

I know he was pretty much unknown in a pretty much neglected sport but still, dying at the age of 19 with a good career in front of you is pretty tragic. Thoughts are with the family.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:32 pm
by katarn
RIP

Just seen it on Youtube, horrible collision.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:29 pm
by Wizard Of Odd
Blimey I was watching that earlier. Must have switched over just before it happened.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:47 pm
by katarn
I'm hearing the stewards roughly rolled him onto a stretcher, then dropped him on the gravel trap as they were taking him away, before he later died in hospital. I don't know if it's true or not, but if it is that's scandalous treatment.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:06 pm
by topfear
Sad :(

PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:04 pm
by Rossell
Ya know its weird, I don't watch MotoGP, let alone Moto2. Went over a mates the other evening and randomly flicked onto a Moto2 race and watched it to the end.

So when I saw this it made me double :( :(

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:31 pm
by Hyssy
It was a tragedy, most definitely.

Re: Shoya Tomizawa R.I.P

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:32 am
by Rossell
Appropriate place to put this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motogp/15420069.stm

Whats going on motorsport?

Re: Shoya Tomizawa R.I.P

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:54 am
by Edwin
RIP

Also, related to the 18 people in China ignoring that kid, apparently when the crowd were told the race was cancelled they started booing and throwing bottles onto the track.

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Re: Shoya Tomizawa R.I.P

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:06 am
by gpa-gone-west
Rossell wrote:Appropriate place to put this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motogp/15420069.stm

Whats going on motorsport?


Was just going to post that, what with the guy in this thread, Dan Wheldon and now Marco christ.

Re: Shoya Tomizawa R.I.P

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:32 am
by Rossell
Edwin wrote:RIP

Also, related to the 18 people in China ignoring that kid, apparently when the crowd were told the race was cancelled they started booing and throwing bottles onto the track.

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BBC says they were throwing bottles amid confusion. Not sure if they were aware of a death on track. If thats the case, I can forgive it.

Re: Shoya Tomizawa R.I.P

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:28 pm
by cHeal
RIP. I'm really really sad to hear this news. He was easily my favourite MotoGp rider. Really really sad day. I suspect it could be a bit of a watershed moment for biking safety, similar to the Senna crash. I suspect there will be big changes for safety in the next few years, MotoGp cannot afford to allow its riders be killed anymore, it must act. In reality while nobody has died in the sport for some years, that in my opinion is only by chance. Horrible crashes are a regular occurrence and injury is common. Many of the riders on the grid for a MotoGp race are injured.

There were 2 serious injuries in the moto2 FP1. With one rider being thrown violently from his bike, in a scene reminiscent of Giles Villenueves fatal accident. He did not race. Another rider dislocated his shoulder moments before. moto2 race was red flagged 2 laps after an incident that left a rider motionless on track.

The sport is NOT safe, and it simply is not acceptable for Helmets to be coming off. Marco was not just an exciting rider, he was a great character and the grid will definitely be a poorer place for his absence.

Re: Shoya Tomizawa R.I.P

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:37 pm
by arqueturus
Such a shame as Marco was a real character and superbly talented. I'm going to miss him terribly from the world of bike racing.


Appropriate place to put this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motogp/15420069.stm

Whats going on motorsport?


I think it's forgotten how very dangerous bike racing is and motorsport in general. I had a bike accident a month and a half ago when a car pulled accross me on the motorway without indicating. I was very lucky not to crash but my left foot was crushed between the car's front wing and my bike - this was me at about 25mph and the car at 20mph. I had 4 broken bones in my foot and two badly dislocated toes that eventually had to be operated on an wire. Velocity, mass and physics - we don't realise the forces that come into play.

This is the 3rd bike racing death in the past few years now and each time it's a traumatic shock.

R.I.P Marco Simoncelli.

Re: Shoya Tomizawa R.I.P

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:42 pm
by katarn
RIP

I'm hearing the marshals dropped him on to the ground while hurriedly moving him away from the track on the stretcher, just like with Tomizawa last year. It might not have made any difference in terms of his death with his injuries, but for it to happen twice in a row in both fatalities it's not acceptable.

Re: Shoya Tomizawa R.I.P

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:45 pm
by arqueturus
cHeal wrote:RIP. I'm really really sad to hear this news. He was easily my favourite MotoGp rider. Really really sad day. I suspect it could be a bit of a watershed moment for biking safety, similar to the Senna crash. I suspect there will be big changes for safety in the next few years, MotoGp cannot afford to allow its riders be killed anymore, it must act. In reality while nobody has died in the sport for some years, that in my opinion is only by chance. Horrible crashes are a regular occurrence and injury is common. Many of the riders on the grid for a MotoGp race are injured.

There were 2 serious injuries in the moto2 FP1. With one rider being thrown violently from his bike, in a scene reminiscent of Giles Villenueves fatal accident. He did not race. Another rider dislocated his shoulder moments before. moto2 race was red flagged 2 laps after an incident that left a rider motionless on track.

The sport is NOT safe, and it simply is not acceptable for Helmets to be coming off. Marco was not just an exciting rider, he was a great character and the grid will definitely be a poorer place for his absence.



There really isn't much more that can be done for safety really. Most of the riders have airbags in their leathers these days. Having seen a very brief replay of the accident that happened to Marco, I'm not suprised the helemt came off. The back of his head was hit by another bike, I would expect the strap to snap from the sheer force of it.

In the three deaths that I mention (and including Marco's) they all came from the rider being hit by other bikes and that's the factor that can never be controlled. If you imagine just running as fast as you can into a wall without slowing down, it gives you some idea of how vulnerable riders are from impacts. Can you think of any way of making bike racing safer other than illegallising it?